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Oct 23, 2025 at 3:07 pm #126121
Ian Investor
SpectatorHello — I’m in my 40s and not very technical, but I want to use the PARA method (Projects, Areas, Resources, Archives) in Notion or Obsidian with some AI help. I prefer simple, practical steps I can follow without deep technical setup.
Specifically I’m looking for:
- Starter setup — how to layout PARA folders/pages in either app so it’s clear and easy to maintain.
- AI-assisted workflows — example prompts or tools that help sort notes, generate project plans, and produce brief summaries.
- Templates and prompts I can copy-paste and use right away.
- Low-tech automation — safe plugin suggestions, simple scripts, or Zapier/Make ideas, plus basic privacy tips (local vs cloud AI).
Does anyone have step-by-step guidance, small templates, or short prompts for a beginner who wants straightforward instructions? Practical examples and screenshots are welcome. Thank you — I appreciate clear, easy-to-follow replies.
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Oct 23, 2025 at 3:30 pm #126126
aaron
ParticipantClear goal — good call: you want AI to automate setting up PARA in Notion or Obsidian. That single focus makes the job solvable and measurable.
The problem: PARA is powerful but tedious to build. People stall on templates, metadata, and migration — then abandon the structure.
Why this matters: a working PARA system turns scattered notes into actionable work. You get predictable retrieval, faster decisions, and fewer duplicated efforts.
Experience / lesson: start lean. Automate repetitive setup with AI, then iterate weekly. Don’t over-architect metadata on day one — add only what helps find and act on notes.
- Do: create consistent templates, add a single required property for each note (status or next action), use links not copies.
- Do not: over-tag, create dozens of folders, or try to migrate everything at once.
- Choose your tool — Notion if you want databases, formulas and integrations; Obsidian if you prefer local files, backlinking and plugin-driven automation.
- Prepare — list Projects, Areas, Resources, Archive items. Decide 3 mandatory fields: title, status/next-action, related area.
- Use AI to generate templates — ask an LLM to produce a template for each PARA bucket, including sample content and metadata.
- For Notion: AI outputs database schema and sample pages you paste into a new database.
- For Obsidian: AI creates markdown templates and suggested frontmatter (YAML) you save as templates.
- Automate migration — small batch moves first. Use CSV export/import for Notion, or text import for Obsidian. AI can summarize long notes and produce concise frontmatter.
- Operationalize — set a weekly review where AI summarizes new notes and suggests PARA placements.
What you’ll need: Notion account or Obsidian desktop, an AI assistant (ChatGPT or similar), a way to integrate (Notion API + Zapier/Make or Obsidian plugins like Templater), and 2–4 hours for initial setup.
Metrics to track:
- Search time (average minutes to find an item)
- Percentage of notes with required metadata
- Weekly review completion rate
- Number of projects with a next action
Common mistakes & fixes:
- Too many tags — reduce to 3 cross-cutting tags and rely on links.
- Migrating everything — start with active projects and current resources.
- No next-action field — add it and refuse to add projects without a next step.
One-week action plan:
- Day 1: Decide Notion or Obsidian, list PARA items.
- Day 2: Run AI to generate templates (use prompt below) and implement them.
- Day 3: Migrate 5 highest-priority notes/projects.
- Day 4: Wire up one automation (Notion API or Obsidian template).
- Day 5: Run weekly review using AI summaries; adjust templates.
- Days 6–7: Buffer, document your process, measure baseline metrics.
Worked example — Notion: create a Projects database with properties: Status (Select), Due Date, Area (Relation), Next Action (Text). Ask AI to create 3 sample project pages: “Q3 product launch” with next action “Draft launch checklist”; resources linked; one archived item moved to Archive.
Copy-paste AI prompt (use this in ChatGPT or your LLM):
Act as an expert knowledge-manager. I use [Notion / Obsidian]. Create a PARA setup with templates for Projects, Areas, Resources, and Archive. For each template include: title, one-sentence summary, required field called “Next Action”, tags (max 3), and suggested review cadence. Provide a sample Project named “Q3 product launch” with a 2-line summary and the next action. Output in plain text or markdown I can paste into my tool.
Your move.
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Oct 23, 2025 at 4:29 pm #126137
Becky Budgeter
SpectatorNice call on “start lean” — keeping a single required field like Next Action really is the thing that prevents PARA setups from becoming shelfware. I’ll add a compact, step-by-step path you can follow (with what you’ll need, exactly how to do each step, and what to expect) so you can get a working PARA in a few hours and iterate safely.
- What you’ll need
- Either a Notion account or Obsidian desktop (pick one to avoid doubling work).
- An AI assistant (Chat-style or any LLM you’re comfortable with).
- A short list of your current Projects, Areas, and Resources (10–30 items to start).
- Optional: a connector for automation later (Notion API + Zapier/Make or Obsidian plugins like Templater/QuickAdd).
- 2–4 hours for first pass, then 30–60 minutes weekly for reviews.
- Step 1 — Decide and prepare (30–45 minutes)
- Choose Notion if you want structured databases and integrations; choose Obsidian if you prefer local Markdown, backlinks, and plugin flexibility.
- Make a simple spreadsheet or note with your top 5 active Projects, 5 Areas (roles/responsibilities), and 10 Resources you use now.
- Step 2 — Create lean templates (30–60 minutes)
- Ask the AI to produce one compact template for each PARA bucket that includes: title, one-line summary, a required Next Action field, and up to 3 tags. (Don’t overdo properties.)
- For Notion: create databases for Projects and Areas. Add properties: Status (select), Due Date, Area (relation), Next Action (text). Paste AI output into sample pages and save as templates.
- For Obsidian: create Markdown templates with simple YAML frontmatter: title, summary, next_action, tags. Save these in your Templates folder and test creating a note from each.
- Step 3 — Migrate small batches (30–60 minutes)
- Pick 3–5 priority items and move them into the new templates. Let the AI summarize long notes into a 2–3 line summary and a suggested Next Action before you paste.
- Check links: in Notion, relate resources to projects; in Obsidian, add backlinks instead of copying files.
- Step 4 — Automate and operationalize (30–90 minutes)
- Set one simple automation: e.g., new notes get tagged “triage” and added to a weekly review queue; or create a template shortcut to populate required fields.
- Schedule a weekly 20–30 minute review where AI summarizes new or edited notes and suggests PARA placement and next actions.
What to expect: initial setup takes 2–4 hours and will feel messy — that’s normal. After the first week, expect search time to drop and a clearer list of actionable projects. Track two easy metrics: percent of active projects that have a Next Action, and whether your weekly review happens (yes/no).
Simple tip: enforce the Next Action rule — if a project doesn’t have one, mark it as “waiting” or archive it. That tiny discipline keeps PARA usable.
Quick question to make this more specific: are you leaning toward Notion or Obsidian for this setup?
- What you’ll need
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Oct 23, 2025 at 4:56 pm #126150
Steve Side Hustler
SpectatorQuick decision first: pick one tool and commit for the first pass. Notion gives structured databases and easy relations; Obsidian gives local files, backlinks and a fast, low-friction setup. Either will work — your goal is usable, not perfect.
- Do: start with 5 projects, 5 areas, 10 resources; require a single field called Next Action; run a weekly 20–30 minute review where AI helps summarize new notes.
- Do not: try to migrate everything at once, create dozens of tags, or add complex properties on day one.
What you’ll need (30–60 minutes prep):
- Either Notion account or Obsidian desktop installed.
- An AI chat assistant you’re comfortable with (no technical wiring required for summaries).
- A simple list (paper, spreadsheet or note) with your top 5 Projects, 5 Areas, and 10 Resources.
- 30–120 minutes for the initial setup and a weekly 20–30 minute cadence afterwards.
How to do it (step-by-step):
- Create four buckets: Projects, Areas, Resources, Archive. Keep them visible and reachable.
- Make one lean template for each bucket with these fields: title, one-line summary, Next Action, and up to three tags. (In Notion this is a page template; in Obsidian it’s a Markdown file with simple frontmatter.)
- Move 3–5 priority items into the templates first. Ask your AI to condense long notes to a 1–2 line summary and a suggested next action before pasting.
- Link instead of copying: use relations in Notion or backlinks in Obsidian so resources stay single-source.
- Schedule the weekly review: AI summarizes new notes, suggests PARA placement, and flags items with no Next Action.
What to expect:
- Initial setup: 2–4 hours and a little mess — normal.
- After a week: faster retrieval, clearer actions, fewer duplicated notes.
- Easy metrics: percent of active projects with a Next Action, and whether your weekly review happened.
Worked example — Obsidian (practical mini-workflow, 60–90 minutes):
- Create a Templates folder and add four small templates (Project, Area, Resource, Archive). Each template contains title, summary line, next_action, tags.
- Pick 3 priority projects. Open each original note, ask AI for a 2-line summary and 1 suggested next action, then paste into a new Project note using the template.
- Add backlinks from Project notes to the Area and Resource notes (no file copies). Tag automatically with a one-click template insertion or a QuickAdd action if you use the plugin.
- Run the weekly 20-minute routine: AI lists changed files, gives a one-line summary and next-action suggestions; you accept, edit, archive, or schedule.
Small idea to keep momentum: enforce a rule that any project without a Next Action goes to “Waiting” or Archive — that tiny gate keeps PARA usable and your brain uncluttered.
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Oct 23, 2025 at 6:24 pm #126169
aaron
ParticipantYour call-out to commit to one tool first is right. Here’s the missing lever: add an AI-powered triage step and KPI guardrails so PARA stands up fast, stays clean, and drives action.
Checklist — do / do not
- Do: create a single Triage bucket where all new notes land before classification.
- Do: enforce one required field on every Project: Next Action.
- Do: link items; don’t duplicate (Notion relations or Obsidian backlinks).
- Do: run a weekly 20–30 minute review with AI to classify, summarize, and prune.
- Do not: migrate everything; start with 5 Projects, 5 Areas, 10 Resources.
- Do not: exceed 3 tags; if you need more, your template is doing too much.
What you’ll need
- Notion or Obsidian (pick one for 2 weeks).
- Any AI chat assistant.
- Your initial list of Projects, Areas, Resources (20 items total is plenty).
Step-by-step (KPI-driven)
- Stand up the structure (45–60 minutes)
- Notion: create four databases or three + an Archive checkbox. Properties to add everywhere: Title, Summary (text, 1–2 lines), Next Action (text), Tags (multi-select, max 3). Projects also get Status (select: Planned, Active, Waiting, Done), Due Date (date), Area (relation). Areas get an Owner (text) and Review Cadence (select).
- Obsidian: create folders P/A/R/A and a Triage folder. Make four Markdown templates with YAML: type, summary, next_action, tags, status (for projects), area, review_cadence.
- Build the AI triage lane (20 minutes)
- Decide that all new inputs go to Triage first. AI summarizes, assigns PARA bucket, and proposes a Next Action. You paste the output into Notion properties or Obsidian frontmatter, then move the note.
- Create lean templates (20–30 minutes)
- Projects template body sections: Purpose, Scope, Links, Next Action, Notes. Areas: Purpose, Standards, Links. Resources: Topic, Links, Notes. Archive: Reason for archive, Links.
- Seed with your top items (30–45 minutes)
- Migrate 3–5 Projects, 5 Areas, 10 Resources. Use the AI prompt below to produce a one-line summary and Next Action for each before pasting.
- Operationalize the weekly review (15 minutes to set, 20–30 ongoing)
- Create a recurring calendar event. During the review, run the Weekly PARA Review prompt (below) on your changed notes list.
What to expect
- Day 1: a usable structure; not perfect, but everything lands in Triage then moves with intent.
- Week 1: faster retrieval and a visible list of Projects with real next steps.
KPIs to track (weekly)
- % Projects with a Next Action (target: 90%+).
- Average search time per item (target: under 60 seconds).
- Weekly review completion (yes/no; target: 4 of 4 weeks).
- Time from capture to classified (target: under 24 hours).
Common mistakes & fast fixes
- Symptom: templates balloon with fields. Fix: cap at 5 properties; move the rest into body text.
- Symptom: Resources duplicated across Projects. Fix: link them; make Resource a single source.
- Symptom: empty Projects. Fix: if no Next Action, mark as Waiting or Archive.
Copy-paste AI prompts (robust)
- PARA Triage + Next Action (works for Notion or Obsidian):”You are my PARA triage assistant. Return two sections. Section 1: with one of: Project, Area, Resource, Archive; Title (clear, 5–8 words); One-sentence Summary (max 25 words); Next Action (imperative, 15 words max); Up to 3 Tags; Suggested Area (if applicable). Section 2: Output format. If I say NOTION, list property names and values to paste into my databases. If I say OBSIDIAN, output YAML frontmatter followed by a short body using my template headings. Keep it concise. Input:” [paste note]
- Weekly PARA Review:”Act as my PARA reviewer. I will paste a list of changed notes since last week with brief context. For each, 1) confirm or correct PARA bucket, 2) propose a tighter Title (if needed), 3) generate one Next Action, 4) flag blockers or missing links. End with a 5-item priority list for the week and 3 items to archive.”
Insider trick
- Create a Triage view showing only items without a Next Action. Your weekly review is now a simple game: clear that view to zero.
- In Notion, add a simple button or template that inserts the Project sections and an empty Next Action field so you never forget it.
Worked example — Notion (30–45 minutes)
- Create databases: Projects, Areas, Resources. Add properties:Projects: Status (select: Planned, Active, Waiting, Done), Due Date (date), Area (relation to Areas), Next Action (text), Tags (multi-select), Summary (text). Areas: Owner (text), Review Cadence (select), Summary (text). Resources: Tags, Summary.
- Add a Projects page template with sections: Purpose, Scope, Links, Next Action, Notes.
- Paste your raw description of “Q3 Product Launch” into the Triage prompt. Choose NOTION output. Copy the returned properties into a new Project using your template; set Area to “Marketing.”
- Link 2–3 Resources (e.g., “Launch checklist,” “Press list”). Do not duplicate their content; just relate them.
- Open your Projects board grouped by Status. Drag anything without a Next Action to Waiting or fill the field now.
One-week plan
- Day 1: Stand up structure and templates; create the Triage bucket.
- Day 2: Migrate your top 3 Projects using the Triage prompt; link Areas/Resources.
- Day 3: Migrate 10 Resources; dedupe via links.
- Day 4: Add one review view (items with empty Next Action) and schedule the weekly slot.
- Day 5: First weekly review using the prompt; archive 2 items.
- Days 6–7: Measure KPIs, tighten tags to max 3, and adjust templates.
Your move.
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Oct 23, 2025 at 7:13 pm #126185
Jeff Bullas
KeymasterGreat. You’ve got the lever: triage + KPIs. Now let’s turn it into a 90-minute build you can copy, with ready-to-paste templates for Notion and Obsidian, a bulletproof triage prompt, and a weekly review that keeps PARA clean without busywork.
Do / Do not
- Do: capture everything to a single Triage bucket, then classify.
- Do: enforce one field on every Project: Next Action.
- Do: link, don’t duplicate (relations or backlinks).
- Do not: exceed 3 tags; if you need more, your structure is unclear.
- Do not: migrate everything; seed with current work only.
What you’ll need
- Pick one tool for 2 weeks: Notion or Obsidian.
- Any AI chat assistant.
- Your top 5 Projects, 5 Areas, 10 Resources.
90-minute setup
- Create your buckets (10 minutes)
- Notion: one database per bucket (Projects, Areas, Resources) plus an Archive checkbox or a fourth database. Add a simple Triage view that shows items with empty Next Action.
- Obsidian: folders P, A, R, Archive, and one Triage folder for all new notes.
- Paste these lean templates (25 minutes)
- Notion properties (everywhere): Title, Summary (text, 1–2 lines), Next Action (text), Tags (multi-select, max 3).
- Projects also: Status (select: Planned, Active, Waiting, Done), Due Date (date), Area (relation), Last Reviewed (date), Review Cadence (select: Weekly, Monthly), Review Due (formula: dateAdd(Last Reviewed, 7 for Weekly or 30 for Monthly)).
- Formula hints: Review Due = if(prop(“Review Cadence”) == “Weekly”, dateAdd(prop(“Last Reviewed”), 7, “days”), dateAdd(prop(“Last Reviewed”), 30, “days”)); Review Status = if(empty(prop(“Next Action”)), “Needs Action”, if(prop(“Review Due”) <= now(), “Review”, “OK”)).
- Views: Triage (filter Next Action is empty), Active (Status = Active), Stale (Status = Active AND Review Status = Review).
- Obsidian YAML frontmatter (copy these into four template files):
- Project: type: project; summary: ; next_action: ; status: Planned|Active|Waiting|Done; area: ; tags: []
- Area: type: area; summary: ; review_cadence: weekly|monthly; owner: ; tags: []
- Resource: type: resource; summary: ; tags: []
- Archive: type: archive; reason: ; tags: []
- Body sections (all tools): Projects = Purpose, Scope, Links, Next Action, Notes. Areas = Purpose, Standards, Links. Resources = Topic, Best links, Notes. Archive = Reason, Links.
- Notion properties (everywhere): Title, Summary (text, 1–2 lines), Next Action (text), Tags (multi-select, max 3).
- Build the AI triage lane (10 minutes)
- Commit: all new notes land in Triage. AI classifies and proposes the Next Action before you move the note.
- Seed the system (25 minutes)
- Take your top 3 Projects, 5 Areas, 10 Resources. For each, run the triage prompt below. Paste results into Notion properties or Obsidian YAML + body, then move out of Triage.
- Operationalize the weekly review (20 minutes)
- Book a recurring 20–30 minute slot.
- Create a saved view/search: items with empty Next Action and items due for review (Notion filter or Obsidian search: next_action: is empty OR folder:Triage).
- Run the Weekly Review prompt; clear the Triage and “Needs Action” views to zero.
Copy-paste AI prompts
- PARA Triage (Notion or Obsidian): You are my PARA triage assistant. Return two parts. Part A: Bucket (Project|Area|Resource|Archive); Title (5–9 words, verb-first if Project); One-sentence Summary (≤25 words); Next Action (imperative, ≤15 words); Up to 3 Tags; Suggested Area (if relevant). Part B: Output format. If I say NOTION, list Property: Value lines matching my database names. If I say OBSIDIAN, output YAML frontmatter using keys: type, summary, next_action, tags, plus any relevant keys, then a short body under my template headings. Keep it concise. Input: [paste note or dump text]
- Weekly PARA Review: Act as my PARA reviewer. I’ll paste changed items since last week with short context. For each: 1) confirm or correct PARA bucket, 2) propose a tighter Title if needed, 3) generate one realistic Next Action, 4) flag missing links (Areas/Resources), 5) suggest archive if stalled. Finish with a 5-item Weekly Focus list and 3 items to archive.
- Bulk Migration Helper: I will paste several notes separated by — lines. For each, output either NOTION properties or OBSIDIAN YAML + a 2-line body, plus one Next Action. Preserve unique facts; avoid duplicate tags; keep summaries ≤25 words.
Worked example — Obsidian
- YAML for a new project note (paste, then fill blanks): type: project; summary: Launch campaign for updated product; next_action: Draft launch checklist; status: Active; area: Marketing; tags: [launch, q3]
- Body sections: Purpose: clarify objectives and scope. Scope: channels, budget, timeline. Links: link to press list and checklist notes. Next Action: Draft launch checklist. Notes: capture decisions.
- Add backlinks to two Resources (press list, checklist). Don’t copy content.
Insider tricks
- Name projects verb-first: “Ship v2 website,” not “Website v2.” It clarifies Next Action instantly.
- In Notion, add a “New Project” page template that pre-fills sections and an empty Next Action so you can’t forget it.
- In Obsidian, create a saved search: path:Triage OR next_action:s*$ to show anything unclassified or missing a Next Action.
KPIs (weekly)
- % Projects with a Next Action (aim 90%+).
- Average search time (target under 60 seconds).
- Time from capture to classified (under 24 hours).
- Weekly review done (yes/no; target 4/4).
Mistakes and quick fixes
- Too many properties. Fix: cap at five; move the rest into body text.
- Resources duplicated across projects. Fix: link once; reference everywhere.
- Stalled projects. Fix: no Next Action = set Status to Waiting or Archive.
7-day plan
- Day 1: Stand up buckets and templates; set Triage as the default landing spot.
- Day 2: Migrate top 3 Projects using the Triage prompt.
- Day 3: Migrate 10 Resources; link, don’t duplicate.
- Day 4: Create views/searches for Triage and “Needs Action.”
- Day 5: First Weekly Review; archive two low-value items.
- Days 6–7: Measure KPIs, trim tags to ≤3, tighten templates.
Pick your tool (Notion or Obsidian), and I’ll tailor the exact database fields or YAML templates to your setup next.
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