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  • http://diyblogger.net/about Dino Dogan

    I always sucked at math so maybe someone else can figure it out for me…or not :-)

    Am I the only one thats getting tired of Klout and social score conversations?

    What does it mean that Bieber and Hilton are more “influential” over the President of the US? And who is Chad Ochinoco?

    If that doesnt make the case for the tenuous relevance of these lists I dont know what does?

    And how come folks who are social media giants arent scoring sky-high with these?

    None of it adds up for me…but maybe Im missing something, who knows.

    • http://schmorgasboard.wordpress.com PandorazBox80

      “The lower the number the better your reputation is in your industry and niche.”

      Therefore, Paris and Ochocinco (who is a football player; I’m really tired so I can’t remember what team) are much less influential than the people in the second group like Darren and Chris.

      As other commenters have said, there are factors that can skew the ratio’s accuracy. But the basic gist is that the more people who list you, the more relevance and value you’re giving to your followers.

      Out of my followers and followees, most do not use auto-listing services, so my ratio is much more likely to be accurate. I regularly block obvious spammers, so I can be pretty sure that my followers are real people. Most of them interact with me and give back value.

      I’m not highly listed, but I don’t see this as a bad thing. Not everyone uses lists. All in all, though, this is a fairly good algorithm. Thanks for the post!

      Diane

    • http://twitter.com/MarciMarketing Marci Gower

      It doesn’t add up Dino, because wherever there is a ‘score’ involved, there will be a way for someone to find a way to cheat. Period.

      And Chad OchoBlinko is the guy who wanted to “nail the hot chick on dancing with the stars”. That’s what my neighbor’s 12 year old just told me. I didn’t even need Google…

    • http://twitter.com/MarciMarketing Marci Gower

      It doesn’t add up Dino, because wherever there is a ‘score’ involved, there will be a way for someone to find a way to cheat. Period.

      And Chad OchoBlinko is the guy who wanted to “nail the hot chick on dancing with the stars”. That’s what my neighbor’s 12 year old just told me. I didn’t even need Google…

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  • http://jeffbullas.com Jeff Bullas

    Thanks for your comment. Your observation is insightful and it would be interesting to look at other industry/niche categories on Twitter

  • http://jeffbullas.com Jeff Bullas

    Thanks for the comment Sean. The reputation ratio is maybe something that you will only find on this blog for the moment :)

  • http://jeffbullas.com Jeff Bullas

    Thanks for your comment. I have used the number of lists people are on as a quick guide credibility when I view a profile for a while and it inspired this post.

  • http://jeffbullas.com Jeff Bullas

    Thanks Phil for your insightful comment. Yes you will find automated lists within people’s lists which I personally don’t use and yes they will game the system. I only use the reputation ratio as a rough guide to someone’s potential credibility. It is good to see a discussion happening :)

  • http://bluesmoon.info Philip Tellis

    so someone with 250 followers and only on 1 list has a reputation of 250. Put the person on 2 lists, and they have a reputation of 125. 5 lists and they’re only down to the order of Obama. It’s highly likely that 200 of this person’s followers are just commercial accounts that follow everyone, so in reality they have no reputation at all.

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  • http://twitter.com/StacyZapar Stacy Donovan Zapar

    My Twitter Reputation Ratio is 2.94! How cool is that?! :)

    Thanks for sharing, Jeff. Great content, as always…

    Stacy Donovan Zapar
    Most Connected Woman on LinkedIn
    Follow me on Twitter at @stacyzapar

  • http://www.socialchiefs.com Ronnie Overgoor

    @Jeff thx for putting us in the list. Maybe good to mention that Social Chiefs (@socialchiefs) not only measures Twitter, but also Facebook and LinkedIn. Measuring is based on reach, actions and level of interaction. Thx! Ronnie (@ronnieovergoor)

    • http://jeffbullas.com Jeff Bullas

      Thanks for the comment and you are very welcome. I have now added the expansion on what social chiefs measures.

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  • Albert Qian

    Mine is 8.96 — 827 followers put me on 83 lists. I like that I have a better rep than Bieber! lol

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  • http://twitter.com/mqtodd Michael Q Todd

    Hi Jeff
    Surely it could be taken further by looking at how many people are following the lists that you are on? I thinka relatively simple equation is what Klout does. Looks at unique retweeters and also unique commenters on FB. And takes into account the “influence” of those people. I think it is remarkably accurate.
    Formulists have distorted twitter lists. I am on around 2,900 lists but about a quarter are formulists which no one actually decided to add me to.A robot did it!
    Michael

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  • http://twitter.com/binreminded Binreminded

    Apparently I tweet a lot about alcoholism, afghanistan and baseball according to twitalyzer. The answer is No I don’t drink a lot; afghanistan – never been there and baseball – that’s an American game  - like the original British game we call Rounders – correct? 

  • http://lamiki.com/ Laura Kimball

    Hi Jeff,

    I love that you’re recommending that people account for the number of lists a user is on to determine their “influence.” To your point, if you’re listed, that means people care one-step beyond just following you (or seeing your tweets and deciding not to follow you) and decided to categorize and label you.

    I (@lamiki:twitter) have a Twitter Reputation Ration of 8.5 (1,996 followers and am on 234 lists). For every 100 followers, I aim to be on at least 10 lists. It’s a nice goal to shoot for. So a Twitter Rep. Ration below 10 is a good ballpark to be in.

  • Amanda

    16.29 is my Ratio, I am rather pleased with that! Great post. X

  • http://twitter.com/SocialMMMDiva Karen RogersRobinson

    Lookin’ pretty good! I have 521 followers and 37 have put me on a list so that gives me a 14.08…o and the lists are for Social Media pro’s & QR code specialist which means i am on target!

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  • http://stctechnologies.copytaste.com/ STC Technologies

    Lot of thanks to your informations.

  • http://twitter.com/LumbreSon Sonsoles Lumbreras

    Sorry bu I disagree with this method, I don’t think you should always take into account this ratio since many people are too lazy to make lists or they simply make lists to tidy their followers by topic. For instance, I have some people under the same lists that I don’t consider they have the same influence in that area. I only separate people by subject so I can chose what I want to read every time I check out my lists

  • http://twitter.com/DRwebvideo Joe Schaefer

    Of course more important is what you are trying to accomplish. If you are trying to bring traffic and build links through content and reputation, the more important number might be the engagement data. Like, mentions, favorites, RTs and of course lists.

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